Irish Genealogy and History Shownotes. episode 126
From the Irish Roots Cafe at www.Irishroots.com
Among Todays Topics:
1) Manatt is the Irish Family Name of the Day
2) How to spell Your Irish Name
3) Irish in Canada
4) Save the Rural Irish Pub
5) America switch from Scotland to Ireland in protest
6) Irish Visitors to U.S. down
7) First person killed in auto accident was…..
Timeline for this weeks audio broadcast:
This Weeks Topics: 1:05
Notes from Mike: 1:53
Family History Tips: 9:34
The Magnificent Seven: 16:05
Irish Name of the Day: 18:32
Websites of the Week: 21:59
Curious News and Notes: 23:20
Total Time: 27:52
Notes This Week:
1) In talking with Lisa from Genealogygems podcast she
mentioned a listener with Hickson and Carey roots from Co.
Kerry and of an U.S. obituary which apparently noted that it
should be reprinted in Montreal papers. Here is my audio note
back to Lisa in hopes of helping out another researcher.
(Listen to the audio broadcast 24 hours a day at Irishroots.com)
We mention a possible source for Hicksons in Ireland as:
Mary Agnes Hickson in 1872 wrote Kerry Records 2v set, and in the Kerry
I Also noted immgrants at Grosse Ile in Canada:
This database includes information on 33,026 immigrants whose names
appear in surviving records of the Grosse-Île Quarantine Station between
1832 and 1937. Names were extracted from different kind of documents.
Another source in our database: Library and Archives Canada:
Immigrants to Canada
Library and Archives Canada holds a number of lists that have been
identified and indexed by name in a database, formerly known as our Miscellaneous Immigration Index. Many of the records relate to
immigrants from the British Isles to Quebec and Ontario, but there are
also references to settlers in other provinces. The database also includes
other types of records such as lists of the Irish settlers brought to the
Peterborough area of Ontario in the early 1820s, the declarations of aliens
for Lower Canada and names of some Irish orphans.
If your researching in County Kerry, be sure to check out these Kerry Books:
Families of County Kerry, Ireland: http://www.irishroots.com/id4365.htm
County Kerry Genealogy, Family History http://www.irishroots.com/id4845.htm
2) Our shipment of the Irish Families Project, the 34 book set
on Irish Family History and genealogy, to Gould Genealogy is
off, and I imagine it should arrive within the next month or so.
For our Australian folks, be sure to check them out ! They
now have our books on every Irish county available.
3) We were happy to be interviewed by Cindy Thomson of
Cindyswriting on Twitter. The interview was for Internet-
Genealogy magazine. Our thanks to Cindy, enjoyed it! Look
forward to reading the next issue.
4) Our blog at IrishCentral.com has started. Here is the page:
Beginning Your Irish Family History Search
Part 4 of a 10 part series
Spelling Your Irish Name
Bet You Can’t
Think you know the ‘proper’ spelling of your name ?
You probably do not. Please remember that Irish names
were originally spelled in the Irish language. So Flaherty
was originally something like: O Flaitbeartaig…
The ‘correct’ Spelling
So tell me now, what is the proper spelling of that name
when changing in into English ? You might spell it Flagherty,
your brother might spell it Floherty, and your uncle might
spell it Flareherty. You could be related to someone who
todays spells it a ‘different’ way.
Coming to Blows
I have seen an O’Conner come to blows, as he was certain
he was not related to any O’Connor, especially the one that
lived down the street. The chief herald had the same type
of problem generations ago – explaining to one O’Connor
family that they were related to an O’Conner family. And the
chief herald of Ireland had the proof in writing !
( per The Irish Book of Arms http://www.irishroots.com/id4861.htm )
Your 5 Minute Task
1. Sit down with pen and paper
2. Say your name outloud
3. Now spell your name 5 different ways. (it is possible)
Think like a third grader, and go by the ‘sound’ of the name.
Need help ? Any double letter, can become a single letter,
as in Conell and Conel. Any ‘y’ can be changed to an ‘ey’
as in Cary changed to Carey. The vowels in your name can
be changed easily from one to another as in Barry or Berry.
Mac and O before names can be dropped or added at will.
It Was Not Important
The fact is, in earlier generations the spelling of your name
was not that important. A person could go for quite awhile
and never spell his name at all. I have seen ‘learned’ people
go to pains to spell a name several different ways within a
legal document !
Things today are very different. We all sign papers daily, and
you might be charged with fraud by a battery of attorneys if
you playfully decided to change the spelling of your own name.
This means your name could have been spelled differently
not only by the folks at Ellis Island, but by record keepers
in Ireland, and by the different members of your own family !
So keep an eye out for similar ‘sounding’ names when looking
through records for your ancestors. Every once in awhile it
will come in handy.
Mac and Mc Names
Let’s settle this one quickly. ‘Mc’ is just an abbreviation for ‘Mac’.
Your family may use one or the other, but they stand for the same
thing in the Irish, basically meaning ‘son of’.
Both forms are used in Ireland. Both forms are used in Scotland.
On the other hand, names that start with an ‘ O’ ’ are normally
native to Ireland.
Related Source Books:
Names that begin with Mac, Mc, and O
The Scottish Macs:
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What kind of giant ‘monster’ fish was caught near Donegal ?
Time to raise our eyes skywards, give thanks, and ask for help !
Here are todays “Magnificent Seven” :
1) Welcome Gold member Rebecca Anne Ford of Colville, WA.
Your Return to Irish Roots DVD has shipped. Searching for:
Robert Manatt left Belfast in 1812 also, Ambrose Buchanan b.
about 1814 Co. Tyrone, Ireland. son James b. 1837 in Dunham,
2) Erin Brannagan of New Milford, NJ, your Irish Families shipped.
3) Ray McHale of Sydney, Australia, your County Mayo genealogy
book has shipped.
4) Leona Butler of San Jose, California welcome as a member and
your Kings and Queens County genealogy has shipped.
5) Anita Bedore of Napanee, Canada, your Passenger List and Co.
Tryone genealogy book have shipped.
6) Br. Barry Hall of Rossmoyne, Australia your County Kilkenny
genealogy book has shipped.
7) Marsha Hogan of Worcester, MA, welcome as a member !
Searching for: family of Michael Shannon of Wexford. He came to
Jacquet River, New Brunswick, Canada in 1822.
Thanks to all of our members – without you these
podcasts would not be possible – !
Irish Family Name of the Day:
Todays family history in honor of member:
Rebecca Anne Ford
Related Spellings of the Name
Mannatt, Manet, Manett, Menatt, Mennatt, Menautt,
M’ Kneight, McNatt, Manix, Menaght, Minett, Minnitt
Varient Spelling Groups: 1415, 1539
(Taken from the Master Guide to the Various Spellings
of Irish Family Names) http://www.irishroots.com/id4918.htm
History of the Name
The Rev. Patrick Woulfe gives the similar spellings of Mannight,
Menaght, Menautt, Minett, and Minnitt as originally of Scottish
origin from the area of Lochow. One branch of the family is
found recorded in Co. Antrim, Ireland, and was of some note.
Robert Manatt was born in County Down, Ireland, and in 1812
became a resident of Pennsylvania. Some years afterward he
removed with his family to Holmes county, Ohio, where his wife
died. Later he brought his children to Iowa, living for a time in
Washington county and afterward in Brooklyn…
“History of Franklin County, Iowa“
by I. L. Stuart. 2 vols. Chicago: S. J. Clarke Pub. Co., 1914.
Robert Manatt (1792–1864) emigrated fron Co. Down, Ireland, to Poweshiek Co., IA.
copyright 2007, IGF, based in part upon
The Book of Irish Families, great and small
Irish Family Coats of Arms
Here is some of the information given in the Irish Book of Arms
1) Not Given in the Irish Book of Arms
Coming Up Later in this episode:
1911 Irish Census online complete
The Free Master Index Search of Irish Names
at Irishroots.com finds the family name 15 times
including the following examples :
1) Menautt in Master Guide to Spelling of Irish Family Names
2) Menautt in Birth Index of Ireland
3) Menautt in Irish Names and Surnames by Woulfe
4) Menaght in Master Guide to Spelling of Irish Family Names
5) Minet in Names of Huguenot origins (per O’Hart)
Websites of the Week:
1) The Irish in Canada
2) Library and Archives Canada
3) Photos of Immigration, ships and stations in Canada
4) The 1911 Irish census now online complete for all of Ireland.
Curious News and Notes
1) Did you know that the first person killed in a motoring
accident on the road was in 1869 in Ireland. It was in Birr,
Co. Offaly and the victim was Mary Ward.
2) Save the Irish Pub campaign has been launched by the Irish
Vinters Association, due to closings and job losses. Among
suggestions are reducing taxes and raising the legal limit for
3) The crew never saw anything like it. 5 ft long and 6 ft. high.
It was a ‘monster sunfish’ caught by the MFV Northern Celt
from Greencastle, Co. Donegal. It was caught about 25 miles
NW of Malin Head. It is reported that some can weigh up to 2
tons and can be up to 11 feet.
4) Irish visitors to the US down 50,000 Jan to May.
A total of 464,000 are expected for the year en total.
5) Jerry Garcia of the Grateful dead had an Irish mother with
the surname of Clifford. His father was Joe Garcia (Jose Ramon)
6) It appears hundreds of U.S. tourists are switching to Ireland
from Scotland, as a protest of the release of the Lockerbie bomber
who was convicted of murdering the passengers and crew….
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