Trainor Family; Willie Clancy; Co. Monaghan, Ireland genealogy

Irish Family History and Genealogy
with curious news and notes from Ireland.
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Show 151 advance notes for Mondays Podcast
Among Todays Topics at the Cafe:

1)  Family of the Day:  Trainor
2)  Willie Clancy Video of the week
3)  Parade on the shortest street in the world.
4)  Searching for Black, Callan, Coyne, Meagher, Osborne
5)  Scottish Census coming online next year
6)  Irish County of the Month: Monaghan
7)  Audio of the week: Research Tours of Dublin, Kildare, Leix.

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This Weeks Audio Timeline

Todays Topics:                    1:00
Notes from Mike:                 2:00
1 Minute Audio/Podcast:     4:00
Book of the Month:              6:30
The Magnificent Seven:        9:30
Irish Name of the Day:       11:30
Sources:                            15:30
Websites of the Week:        16:30
Curious News and Notes:   18:30

Total Time: 25:50
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Notes This Week:
What’s happening today at the Irish Roots Cafe

1) We’re back up on with our Irish blog.
Take a look at that introduction: whew- ‘Michael is the worlds
leading expert on ’…. well, you’ll have to take a look at it
Would I have a big target on my back now ….?

2)  Still getting  a bit of feedback on those who want to
change the Irish National Anthem to another tune altogether.
I have to admit it took me by surprise – that song has more
implications to some folks – implications I thought were just
referring to history…

3)  Next we have a phone message from Bernadette, a listener
who offers research tour help in Kildare, Leix, and Dublin:

One Minute Podcast
Let’s take a listen to one of our 8 other podcast series (or
audio from callers to our phone line.)
Covering Song; Recitation; Travel; History; Irish-America;
or Irish language.

Todays Audio extract is from caller:

Todays audio is taken from our phone recorder. Bernadette
calls in with a special guided travel and research service for
Counties Dublin, Kildare and Leix.  For more info contact
her directly at:
(we are not affiliated with the above, but offer this notice as
a service to our listeners – per Mike, your podcast host.)

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Irish Family History:
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Irish Song /recitation:
Irish Video Shorts:
Irish Hedge Row History:
Book of the Month:

1)  County Monaghan Genealogy and Family History Notes
About this book:

What this book does This work includes copies of actual records
(some worn, torn and faded), from the IGF Library. It also includes
rough sketches of family coats of arms and notes from centuries past
– seldom found elsewhere. The resources provided here will help
research any family in the county, including old Irish families, and
settler families from England, Scotland, Wales and the continent.
This book is a hands on guide for finding your family in Monaghan-
some family history is included – but it is not a gigantic collection of
family histories . (For that see ‘The Book of Irish Families, great &
small’, the first book in the Irish Families series by O’Laughlin.)

The Irish Families Project for Monaghan The Master book to the
29 volume Irish Families series is ‘The Book of Irish Families, great
& small’. That book gives hundreds of family histories from County
Monaghan, and the surrounding areas. ” County Monaghan Genealogy
and Family History Notes”, volume 22 in the series, expands upon
that coverage with added families and new resources just for Monaghan.
(In this way both books can work together as a set if desired, or they
may be used independently for research.)

Most Numerous Families
The most numerous families here in the 19th century were:


Old Monaghan Families Some of the old Irish families of Monaghan
were : O’Byrne; Boylan; McWard; Treanor; MacArdle- MacArdell;
MacGilmartin; Callan; McNany-McNeny; Mc Gowan (Smith); Finnegan;
Cassidy; McPhillip also changed to Phillips. Settler names included
Davidson; Stewart; Buchanan; MacKenzie; Cameron; Walker;
Patterson; Sinclair; and McCutcheon.

P a r t   T w o
The complete existing returns from the ‘census’ of 1659,
also showing the methods of spelling family names and place names
at that time in history. This census is organized by parish, townland
and name of Tituladoe, along with count of people, English and Irish.
The full names of tituladoes are given, such as Richard Blaney;
Thomas Wyatt, Nicholas, Owen, Mathew Boyd, John Thomas, John
Forster… and so on, and this is repeated for each barony. These
tituladoes are tied to specific townlands. Furthermore, at the end of
this census there is a list of ‘Principall Irish Names and Their Number’,
listing names as:McArdell 20, O Boyle and Boyle 9, O Beggan 12,
O Boylan 13, O Brynan 9, and so on. It is important to note that the
spellings of place names and family names changed over time. The
researcher should be aware of minor changes in the spelling of his

P a r t  T h r e e
Coats of Arms and Genealogical Notes.
Arms connected in some way to the county, as taken from the Irish
Book of Arms. The original listings provide specific locations for
families, and clues for future research. Among the families with rough
sketches of coats of arms included are: Blaney; Robert Cunninghame,
Thomas Dawson of Dawson’s Grove; Fitzherbert of Shantonagh; Hall
of Rowantree house; Hamilton of Cornacassa; Kane of Drumreaske;
Leslie of Glasslough; Lewis of Inniskeen; Lucas-Scudamore of Castle
Shane; and Madden of Hilton Park….and so on

P a r t  Four
Families history notes from older works, including pedigrees of
Clancy of Dartry; MacKenna of Truagh; Kane of Drumreaske; Duffy;
Lawlor; and MacMahon of Drumgiston. A list of forfeiting proprietors
from the 17th century is included as well.

Parish Names in County Monaghan. The parish is an important
subdivision of the county. Parish records can be vital to research in
the county. The following modern parishes are listed as in Co.
Monaghan in this work: Aghabog, Aghnamullen, Ballybay, Clones,
Clontibret, Currin, Donagh, Donaghmoyne, Drummully, Drumsnat,
Ematris, Errigal Trough, Inishkeen, Killanny, Killeevan, Kilmore,
Magheracloone, Magheross, Monaghan, Muckno, Tedavnet, Tehallan
and Tullycorbet. Some old townlands are given as Ballinlogh, Ballinure,
Bally Kelly, Ballyloghan, and Carnebane. Keep in mind the spelling of
place names and parishes can change over time. Be flexible in your
research when looking for these names.

Families on the 4 Masters Map
What families were in the county in earlier days ? This might provide
a clue to the locations of your family today. Here are some of the
families given on the Map in the History of Ireland by the 4 Masters
(Connellan translation. 2003, I.G.F.) E. = Earl, L.=Lord, C. = chieftain,
V = Viscount, B.= Baron:

Devereux, E. Hughes Mac Ardell, Chief Mac Cabe, C. Mac Donnell,
C. Mac Gilmichael, C. Mac Gilroy O’ Boylan, C. O’ Cassidy O’ Connolly,
C. Mac Kenna, L. Mac Mahon, L. Mac Mahon, P. Mac Neney Mac Oscar,
C. Mac Quade O’ Duffy, C. O’ Hoey O’ Marron, and O’ Neny.

(end of extract fromt this weeks book on Co. Monaghan)
Three Things to Remember:
We Have a Podcast, a Blog reader, and a Blog !

The Podcast is my ‘radio’ show, with extra comments.
The Blog reader is a computer that ‘reads’ this blog.
The Blog has additional entries, and written shownotes.
Coming Up:
Irish Piper Willie Clancy on Video with Fiddler

Time to raise our eyes skywards, give thanks, and  ask for help !
Here are todays “Magnificent Seven” :

1)   Virginia Charest of Tampa, FL, your Families of Galway and
County Galway genealogy and family history notes shipped !

2)  Welcome member Elizabeth Harper of Queensland, Australia
William Black bc 1795 married ??? c 1820(possibly Margaret??)
Not known where married,but lived in Kildress,Co Tyrone where
5 sons were born. Joseph, John,Archibald,Andrew and Robert.

3) Hilda Pardee, of Greensboro, NC, your ‘Surnames of Ireland’
with 200 family location maps has shipped !

4) Jarold G. Abbott of Port St. Lucie, Florida, your County
Antrim Genealogy and Family history notes has shipped.

5)  Howard Worley of Saxonburg, PA, your County Kerry
genealogy books have shipped !

6)  Member Charlotte Kazmier of Wildomar, CA your County
Cavan and County Antrim genealogy books have shipped !

7)  Welcome member Mary (Callan) Coyne of Thorndale, PA.
Searching for: Callan of Monaghan; Coyne of Roscommon;
Meagher of Tipperary; Osborne of Limerick.

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podcasts would not be possible –  !
Sponsors are welcome and needed.

Irish Family Name of the Day:

Todays family history in honor of member:
William J. Trainor of Sugar City, Colorado

Related Spellings of the Name
Treanor, Trainor, Trainer, Mc Trenor, Traynor, Armstrong, Crainor

Varient Spelling Groups:   1980….
From The Guide to the Various Spellings of Irish Family Names

History of the Name
Originally found with a ‘Mac’ before the name, the Trainor
family is traditionally linked to the old geographical division
of Oriel and the North of Ireland.
In Irish the name of Mac Traynor is said to mean “son of the
strong “, hence some adopted the English name of Armstrong.
Mac Lysaght gives the spelling of Mac Crainor as a variant of
the name, as the “t” at the beginning of the root name is
aspirated in gaelic, we have no reports of this however.
We find the use of ‘Mc Trenor’ as a spelling in the 1659 census
and the Trainor name is also found in the Irish Birth Index.

copyright 2010, IGF, based in part upon
The Book of Irish Families, great and small

Irish Family Coats of Arms From the Irish Book of Arms
A Brief search in that work shows:

1)   Not given in the Irish Book of Arms

Coming Up Later in this episode:
Where is the worlds Shortest St. Patricks Day Parade?
On the shortest street in the world according to Ripleys…
The Free Master online index at shows:
Listings for the name several times, here are a few examples:

1)   The Families of County Dublin, Ireland.         (volume 7)
2)   County Antrim Genealogy and family history notes  (v9)
3)   County Tyrone Genealogy and family history notes  (v26)
4)   County Armagh Genealogy and family history notes (v10)
5)   County Monaghan Genealogy and family history notes. (v22)
6)   Names of Irish Passengers to America.
7)   Irish Names and Surnames by Rev. Patrick Woulfe.

You can use this free index to search for your family name:
Remember to leave off the Mac or O when typing your name.

Around the World, in Irish Ways.
The Web Page and Video of the Month.

1)  Brennan family returns to Co. Monaghan, Ireland.
May 2001 trip to visit Ireland. Kathleen, Margaret and Thomas
Brennan visit County Monaghan where their parents were born,
set to music.

2)   Databases online that contain the Trainor surname

3)  Worlds Shortest St. Patricks Day Parade  (short video)
About equal to the walk around the block that we take each year

4) Willie Clancy on Irish Pipes /Joe Leary with Fiddle

see also our Irish Video Shorts at:

Curious News and Notes, From Ireland today

1)  The shortest St. Patricks Day Parade ?
It may be the Hot Springs Arkansas walk across 98 foot long
Bridge Street, which was once the shortest street in the world
according to Ripleys.

2)  Library and Archives Canada
This website is a portal to various resources on Irish heritage
and culture available at Library and Archives Canada and
elsewhere on the Internet. It is also a guide to Ottawa Irish
Festival activities at Library and Archives Canada (LAC).

3)  Music, Dance and Language at Willy Clancy Summer School
03 July 2010 – 11 July 2010
The Willie Clancy Summer School promotes the study, practice
and appreciation of Irish traditional music, song and dance. The
Willie Clancy Summer School was established in 1973 to
commemorate the Miltown Malbay uilleann piper, Willie Clancy

4)  1911 Scottish Census is being imaged and indexed and may
be available as early as April of 2011 according to reports.

5)    Names recovered of Famine Irish who died in Toronto,
Canada. In 1847 over 38,000 Irish men, women and children
landed on the shores of Toronto. Over 1,100 did not survive
and died upon their arrival. At the outset of this project there
were only 30 names, we are pleased to have uncovered
a total to date of 675

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